John 13 continued – foot washing taught by Pastor Don Moore

John 13 Continued – foot washing taught by Pastor Don Moore

Notes from Bible study taught 6/14/13

John 13:5-6  After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded. Then He came to Simon Peter. And Peter said to Him, “Lord, are You washing my feet?”

Peter objects that the Lord over them as teacher is taking a slave position.

John 13:7 Jesus answered and said to him, “What I am doing you do not understand now, but you will know after this.”

When we watch someone carrying out a ministry role we assume we know what they are doing. When something different happens, a pastor’s actions can be misinterpreted.

What Jesus was doing had nothing to do with Jesus being a slave. A true leader is a servant. In the House of the Lord we forget why we are there. We are there to praise, worship, adore God, and demonstrate God’s glory.

The worship team singing worship songs is a ministry and it isn’t for the singers’ glory, but rather to be a blessing to the worship service.

An usher’s role is to enhance the spiritual experiences of the people coming in so that they can get into worship. An usher is not to be a policeman.

True worship is opposite of what tradition and culture teaches.

One cultural thing in most churches is an altar contains three seats – one high-backed seat flanked by two other seats. The pastor sits in the high-backed seat and other church “dignitaries” sit in the other seats. This is the rendition of the pagan Bema seat, a judgment seat. (In our church pastors and visitors sit with the congregation to worship, we don’t place someone in a position of high honor – respect yes, but we are all worshippers of God).

The Kingdom things do not look like the way the world looks. Philippians 2:3-4 Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.

Pastor Don is willing to answer questions of those in Bible study and someone asked about a different translation of the Bible they came across – it turned out to be a jehovah witness bible.  Pastor has one in his office to show people the difference in translation – the JW bible is wrongly translated and Pastor Don pointed out two passages that were so radically different. We have to be careful of the translations we use because we don’t want to alter the truth of God. Only the JWs translate the John 1:1 the way they do – all others follow similar to NKJV. If you see a copy of the Bible called the New World Translation – STAY AWAY – it is the false teachings of JW. They translate the Bible to support their theology and it is a mistranslation.

John 1:1 NKJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

Jaws dropped when we read the JW version of this passage.

JW bible In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god

The JW bible doesn’t say the Word was God; they say it is a god (notice the lower case) They deny the divinity of Jesus – as you go further into their mythology they say we are all angels and Jesus is an angel like us.

Philippians 2:5-8 NKJV Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,  but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.  And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.

The JW bible – note the difference from a truer translation: Philippians 2:5-8 Keep this mental attitude in YOU that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and came to be in the likeness of men. More than that, when he found himself in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient as far as death, yes, death on a torture stake.

It is shocking to see such mis-translations.

Poor traditions put us in position to be in error. People interpret Scripture and put verses in that build themselves up. Mature Christians look at the Word and how it can correct behavior. Many hide behind their positions in the church.

We could not understand Philippians 2:3-4 Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others until after Jesus went to the cross. Jesus took the position of doulos to elevate others.

The Pope should be a servant of the people. We can’t elevate Mary to co-redeemer. We can’t apply what WE think to the Word of God for then we get a form of worship that doesn’t line up with the Spirit and the truth.

Our ultimate goal is to act and see everyone as spiritual to us in the Body of Christ until they are Scripturally wrong. If someone is teaching in the pulpit and they are saying something that we think is not Scriptural, we can honor and respect them, but we must ask a simple question – show me where you find that in the Word. Prove it in the Word.

Revelation 22:12-19 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.” And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

We are not to take a verse out of context. Ask the person why did you do what you do?

If Ezekiel did not tell the people what God said, God would hold Ezekiel accountable.

Ezekiel 3:18-19 When I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. Yet, if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul.

If the people hear the prophecy and don’t obey they are held accountable.

If we take our questions to the leader and he does not make correction but continues to walk in a Gospel of his own mind – that does not flow in Spirit and truth, we can’t feed that ministry or stay in it because it has the power to corrupt the mind.

We have to have a sense that there is a door where truth can come out.

Sadly today, there are many leaders (clergy) in the Church that are not Bible believers. Seminary education is more intellectual and asking questions. Skepticism is popular these days. There are pastors that don’t believe Jesus rose from the dead, and doubt many other Scriptural truths.

Someone in the group said, – with CONTEXT – if you take the TEXT out of Scripture all you have is the CON.

At the same time, every pastor can make an honest mistake or get something wrong. We are not to just listen to spot the errors – we’re not to become some sort of clergy police.

Pastor Don said there was a person who spoke from our pulpit and said that in the last days even the elect would be deceived. No one in the congregation caught the misinterpretation of the Scripture. Pastor Don never invited that person to speak again and spent several Sundays teaching the truth. Here is the Scripture that was taken out of context.

Matthew 24:21-24 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

What the passage says is that IF POSSIBLE – but it is not possible to deceive the elect.

Pastor Don said that there are times when, as we learn to teach the Bible, we make a mistake in interpretation. He doesn’t always come down strong, he waits until a teachable moment and then they will be able to hear their mistake. Most people will put a wall up before their heart opens.

John 13:8-9 Peter said to Him, “You shall never wash my feet!” Jesus answered him, “If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me.” Simon Peter said to Him, “Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!”

Peter is still trying to tell Jesus how to wash him – still wants to be in control.

John 13:10  Jesus said to him, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you.”

This “not all of you” is a reference to Judas.

John 13:11-12 For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, “You are not all clean.” So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, “Do you know what I have done to you?

Jesus won’t be able to condemn or judge until Judas has an opportunity to change. At this point Judas could have decided not to betray Jesus. As Christians we must be patient with those who reject Jesus because later they may become better Christians than we are. We need to give people a fair opportunity to change.

Don’t close the door of hope for someone to be saved until their last breath. How do we know what God can do – and at their last breath they can change and believe in Him. God can remove the last obstacle to believe in with a person’s last breath.

John 13:13-17 You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet.  For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him. If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.

It is possible to know stuff and not do it. That is a problem in the Church. Find the courage and strength to do what we are called to do so that we can better serve the Kingdom of God.

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About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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