How to respond to prophecy by Pastor Don Moore

Sunday, October 23, 2011

How to respond to prophecy by Pastor Don Moore

Friday Bible study taught by Pastor Don Moore June 16, 2011 – this was taught at the time when Camping was suggesting the earth would end shortly.  When the first prophecy didn’t occur, he then said it would happen October 21, and guess what?  We’re still here.

Errors we profess follow us around. We need to have compassion for Camping’s people for they have been deceived.  Camping didn’t admit his mistake and that will hurt those who believed this false prophecy, as their faith is shaken.  Camping came forward and said that the judgment was spiritual, not physical when the first date didn’t pan out.  It is easy to wonder if he would have avoided a stroke by honestly admitting his mistake instead of trying to hide it.

The number one way that false prophets deceive is by saying it is spiritual.  When something prophesied for the natural doesn’t come to pass, the false prophet claims it happened in the spiritual.  By claiming that they can see this in the spiritual it elevates them above you, for you may not see what they “see” in the spiritual.  You can’t see it, the prophet says, but I can.  The only one under judgement in Camping’s prophecy was him.

For his followers this is a hard lesson to learn, for their beliefs are shaken.  We must have compassion for the millions who believed he was right, who fell for his prophecy.  These people blindly believed, not reading Scripture, not comparing Scripture to Scripture to seek the truth.  Camping went way beyond the meaning of Scripture in what he taught.  The sad thing is that this is not the first time he made this mistake, he has foretold the end of the world previously three other times.

God will deal with Camping.  We need to be humble.  We all don’t do right or speak the right things in line with the Scripture all the time.  We must be compassionate to those who were deluded.

Romans 14:12-13 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.

We are accountable to God.  We don’t judge one another as to ultimate outcome of if the person will be saved or not.  This passage does not say don’t judge – just we don’t judge another’s salvation.  We can judge when a person has made a mistake.  We are to judge the fruit of a person’s life.

Judgment will happen to us if we get out from under the truth of the Gospel, and put ourselves in position and power over people teaching them untruths.  Some teach their followers that the healing, tongues, and the power of the Holy Spirit is not effective today.  They argue against signs, wonders, and gifts of the Spirit, preaching against the things clearly shown in Scripture.  They come out from under the covering of God, and when they believe these false teachings it becomes self-fulfilling prophecy, for the gifts and signs and wonders won’t happen unless the person adds faith to the mix.

The revelation truth of the Word is based on yieldedness.

The meaning of the word Salvation is wholeness, health, prosperity, healing, deliverance.  It is not just about dying and going to Heaven.

There is no sinner’s prayer written in the Bible – it is about repenting and believing.

We create religion and tradition that is not established on the Gospel.

One of the biggest errors we have is saying we don’t know God’s will.  We often pray for the sick (not realizing it is God’s will that the person be healed) but we pray, “If it be God’s will let that person be healed.”  When we pray like that it shows that we are ignorant of the authority of the believer and we aren’t operating in the authority of the believer.  We are not expressing our relationship to and understanding of the work of the Cross.

If God tells us to pray and gives us the authority of the believer, and we refuse to do it, we are in disobedience.

Some people will say that it is God’s will that a person isn’t healed, or that God took the life of someone.  It is blasphemous to speak evil and attribute it to God, when the cause is the devil or neglect of the Word.   It is common to call hurricanes and tornadoes acts of God. Sometimes when a person has an accident it is said that God was teaching the person a lesson.  What?????  God does not need to teach us through tragedy.

Of course, if we get outside the permissive will of God, and choose to do our own thing, God is not required to protect us from the errors of our judgment.  And sometimes when we are out of God’s will we make stupid mistakes and face serious consequences for those mistakes.

We don’t have to pray, Lord if it be thy will.  We know, through Scripture, what is God’s will in a situation.  We might ask God how to pray in our situation or pray in tongues if we don’t know what to pray.

1 Corinthians 11:27-32  Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup.  For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.  For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

Many traditions have people examine their lives and sins before taking communion so they do not take communion in an unworthy manner.  But the unworthy manner of taking communion refers to our faith, about our not discerning the work the Jesus did on the Cross, and that is why there are many sick – for they are not eating the Body of Christ and realizing that it is by His stripes we are healed, so many are sick and sleep (die).  We need to judge ourselves, to come before God and be chastened by Him, then we won’t have the world bringing us away from God’s perfect will.

Pastor Don said, “If salvation was only about dying and going to Heaven, why don’t we all just drink the Kool-aid?”  Salvation also speaks to the Kingdom work on the earth and our quality of life on the earth.

We need to ask ourselves questions to help determine God’s perfect will for our lives, questions like, what do you want to do?  God wants to know what you want to do and helps you to make the best decision based on his perfect will.  Sometimes the answers are not always evident by circumstances, such as do I take Job A or Job B?  Job A may initially pay more, but Job B offers training and advancement for the future.  We won’t be comfortable in our spirits until we take it to God and hear from Him.  He will help us to clarify the truth.

God gives us the desires of our heart, and He puts those desires into our heart.

1. Is it my will or God’s will?  When we are in doubt we need to ask ourselves if we are choosing something based on our personal will or are we lining up with God’s will.  These are not empty opinions, our decision is based on our understanding of God inside us.  If we want to Know God’s will, we need to be filled with His Word, then the Holy Spirit has the Word of God in us to draw from to help guide us to God’s perfect will.  Stop wasting money on personal will issues, save money for God. Shut out distractions and discern if what you want to do is God’s will or the permissive will of God.

2. Salvation and spiritual outcomes – know the will of God.  We don’t have to ask if God wants us to forgive.  We know that He wants forgiveness. If someone is seeming to deliberately disturb you (after discerning where you are at, that you haven’t contributed to the problem) then maybe ask the person if there is a disturbing spirit that is making you act this way? To ask a question is far better than combat.  Ask yourself why this is so important to you?  You may not know. Often we are taught not to ask questions.  We can pray in tongues if we don’t know how to pray about the situation.  Seek the heart of God for the circumstance.  Know His Word so you can know the will of God.

Paul and Silas tried to get to Macedonia three times and God blocked their trip.  When he finally opened the door to Macedonia, he had Lydia there to take care of them and the church flourished.  Had they gone before it was God’s perfect timing things would not have proceeded so smoothly.

3. We need to pray and hear God’s response.  We don’t have to act immediately.  There are no emergencies in God’s Kingdom.  When we feel we have discerned God’s will we act in faith.  If we get it wrong, God will correct us.

4. We need to trust in God, cast our cares on Him and not take them back.  So often we pray, give God our concerns then like a fisherman casting out his rod, we reel our cares back.  We need to cast our cares and then cut the line.

5.  Sometimes tough circumstances could lead us to believe we are out of God’s will.  When we are in God’s will, sometimes the external circumstances would seem to dictate otherwise.  Jesus was in God’s perfect will but he went to the Cross.  Paul and Silas were beaten and cast into prison.  But God used the prison to set up another church.  When we know God’s will in our heart, don’t let external circumstances tell you that this may not be God’s will.  When God tells you to do something, be obedient.  Seek God’s will and apply it in your life.

Jeremiah 30:1-2 The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying, “Thus speaks the LORD God of Israel, saying: ‘Write in a book for yourself all the words that I have spoken to you.

Jeremiah’s scribes wrote what Jeremiah prophesied into a book

Jeremiah 30:3 For behold, the days are coming,’ says the LORD, ‘that I will bring back from captivity My people Israel and Judah,’ says the LORD. ‘And I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.’”

The Israelites wee in captivity – the Jews and the People of the Book (Messiah)  Jew and Christian.

Many of us were raised while in captivity, and brought out of captivity.  They believe God’s promise to return on faith, while they were captive.  They were taken into captivity by the evil one.  They are in a generational curse of captivity.  They were also in captivity in their spirit and mind.

God will give us (and them) our stuff and what our fathers lost as well.  God will bless, and his blessing will erase the captivity.  God can restore what the enemy stole and give us a blessing that is greater than we can imagine.

We need to stir up hope that God can restore exceedingly, abundantly, above all we can think or imagine, or ask.

I hope this teaching blesses you.



About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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