Inaccurate translations of Bible cause confusion, power of the Holy Spirit & Tongues by Pastor Don Moore

Thursday, May 05, 2011

Inaccurate translations cause confusion, power of the Holy Spirit, & Tongues by Pastor Don Moore

These are notes from a Friday Bible study of 3/25/11  This was one of those delightful studies where Pastor Don responded to questions from us and answered them with his incredible knowledge of the Bible.  I love these studies, and hope that when you are in our area that you consider attending on Friday – 12:30 is a pot luck lunch and Bible study begins around 1:00,  great fellowship and great food – physical and spiritual.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

If someone knows the truth and suppresses it, or sees the truth and pushes it down or out of the realm of their mind, it is in unrighteousness.

Romans 1:19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

Verse 19 shows why it has to be suppressed.  There will be no atheists in Hell or Heaven.  People will no longer be able to fool themselves.

It is logical that if you see an effect, their has to be a cause.

One example of how truth can be suppressed is in how Bible translators translate certain words in the Scriptures.

John 1:1-5  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

John 1:1 and Genesis 1:1 begin with the spoken Word and we see that Jesus is the Word.

John 1:10-12  He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

Notice the word “right”  – in Greek it is “exousia” – right, privilege, authority.  Exousia means authority, and what happened is that whether the Greek Word was “exousia”  or “dunamis” which means dynamite, miraculous faculties, signs and wonders, the ones who translated the Bible put the word – “authority or right”.  By this one error, irreparable damage has been done to the Body of Christ.

Yet, when people receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the translations say that believers have authority, but the word that they translated as “authority” is really dunamis, and implies dynamite power.

Acts 1:5-8 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” 

The Holy Spirit brings you under condemnation so that you realize your need to be Born Again.  But being Born Again and having the Holy Spirit within is not the same thing as being Baptized by the Holy Spirit which gives power.  Many believers believe that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and being Born Again are the same thing, but the Bible shows that they are separate events, and can occur in any order.  Sometimes people are Born Again and later Baptized in the Holy Spirit, other times the Baptism of the Holy Spirit occurs first.

God knew that the enemy was going to increase in power as the end times draws near and He does not want to leave us without powerful tools to fight the enemy, and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit gives us the power to battle the enemy.  There are some believers that think that all the Baptism of the Holy Spirit does is allow a person to speak in tongues, but really God wants us to apply the dunamis, dynamite power of the Holy Spirit to grow to the next level, and in these end days the need for miracles is going to increase.

We can’t allow our religion and traditions to keep us out of supernatural obedience.  Obedience is important.

In our lives we have Jesus appointment times.  We want to do what Jesus wants us to do when He wants us to do it and how He wants us to do it.

God can use what we think are obstacles to reach Him, to help us push our minds and egos aside so that we are able to do the supernatural work that the Holy Spirit wants us to do.  Sometimes what the Holy Spirit asks us to do does not make sense to our natural minds, but it is what is necessary to reach another for Christ.

People willing to be obedient to God can profoundly impact His Kingdom.  We want to be yielded to God and the Holy Spirit.  If you don’t yield yourself, you limit the amount that Christ can work through you. How are we going to be the book of Acts of we don’t experience the book of Acts?

In Chapter one of the book of Acts none of the Apostles knew what was going to happen.

Luke 24:44-46  Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”  And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures. Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day,

It is possible to read the Scriptures without comprehension.  But the Holy Spirit can open our understanding.

Luke 24:47-49 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And you are witnesses of these things.  Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.”

The Promise of the Father was the Holy Spirit, but they did not know that in Acts 1, they just knew that they were to wait in Jerusalem, to receive the power from on high, but they did not know anything about the power at the time.

We need to understand about the power of the Holy Spirit and tongues so that we can learn to teach it the right way to people so that they can understand the truth.

1 Corinthians 14:2  For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries.

Do you believe by faith?  When you speak in tongues, you are not speaking to men, but are speaking mysteries to God. We may not know what we are saying but God does, it is God’s cleaver way of getting our logical mind out of the way so we can hear from Him.

When we pray, we need to at times be silent, so we can learn to listen and hear what the Spirit says.  Only when we can shut-up our mind can we open it to hear, and tongues is one way to turn off our thinking processes.

1 Corinthians 14:4  He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.

To be a spiritual giant we need to build our spirit up, and speaking in tongues edifies, builds us up, so we want to pray in tongues.  Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.  When we prophesy, we edify the church, for we are speaking forth the Word of God.  There are more than one kind of tongues, there are tongues for building yourself up and tongues that speak forth the Word of God to others.

1 Corinthians 14:5  I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.

Everybody can speak in tongues.  Scientists have done research and proven that when a person speaks in tongues it activates parts of the brain that nothing else touches.  Paul wanted everyone to speak in tongues, but there are rules.  When he wrote to the Corinthians they were out of order, speaking in tongues all the time, even when there were new people in their churches.  That led to confusion.  So Paul is going to set out guidelines, for his goal was to make sure all who attended were edified, not just those who spoke in tongues.

He will teach them that if you are in the assembly, you are not to speak in tongues unless there is someone to interpret and the message is for the whole Body of Christ.  If you want to speak to God in tongues in private, that is good, but not all tongues are meant for the general assembly.  With the prophetic gift of tongues, there needs to be an interpretation, and the interpretation needs to be a message that edifies the whole church.  Paul was all about making sure all people got the full message of the Gospel and that services were in order.

1 Corinthians 14:11-12 Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me. Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.

When the church comes together, if they all speak in tongues, those who are new or unbelievers will not get blessed.

Romans 8:26-27  Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.  Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The Holy Spirit can help us to pray when we do not know what to pray.

1 Corinthians 14:13  Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.

We can ask God to interpret for us what we are praying in tongues.  Whether we know or not, our prayers could be God using us to provide a blessing for someone, somewhere in the world – where God seeks a willing person to pray.  Everyone who speaks in tongues does not have the gift of interpretation.  Those who are in the five-fold ministry are there to edify the church.

1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.

Our spirits are edified with tongues and our spirit prays, but we may not understand what is being prayed.  Do we want to just rely on the understanding of our pea brain or do we want to listen to the mind of Christ?

1 Corinthians 14:15 What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.

Paul says He will do both, depending on what is in order.  Pastor Don pointed out that we often sing in tongues.  He asked us if we started singing a song and we forget a line or two, don’t we go da, de, dah, dum, dum, de  to fill in the words we don’t remember?  That is similar to tongues. We don’t know what to pray, so we pray in tongues, our mind permits the seemingly nonsense syllables to come out and those words God knows what we pray.

1 Corinthians 14:16-17  Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.

We want to make sure all in the Body of Christ are edified, so pray in tongues in an appropriate way.

1 Corinthians 14:18-19  I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all;  yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

Paul follows the rules, but still he prayed in tongues lots – more than the Corinthians, but when it came to making sure someone understood the truth of the Gospel, he used common language to get the message across rather than thousands of words in tongues which would not edify.

1 Corinthians 14:20-21  Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature. In the law it is written:  “With men of other tongues and other lips I will speak to this people; and yet, for all that, they will not hear Me,” says the Lord.

God uses tongues as a sign to people.

1 Corinthians 14:22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe.

Tongues are a sign to non-believers, when tongues and interpretation are used, it can pierce the wall of unbelief and cause unbelievers to come to the Lord.

1 Corinthians 14:23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind?

Pastor Don spoke of visiting a church once where everyone spoke in tongues, there was no message from the pulpit to explain to a visitor what was going on, and no one came up to Pastor Don and his wife – who at that time did not speak in tongues – to show them where it is Biblical.  So they left the meeting, and the people were so caught up in their tongue speaking that they never noticed Pastor and Cynthia leaving.

Pastor Don told us there is a reason that Chapter 14 comes after Chapter 13 in Corinthians.  Chapter 13 is the Love Chapter, and we need to use the speaking of tongues in Love.  We can’t just be edifying ourselves and ignoring unbelievers, that would not be walking in love.

1 Corinthians 14:27-28 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God.

It doesn’t say don’t speak in tongues.  It just says to avoid confusion if one has a tongue, then there should be an interpretation for it.  If no interpreter, then speak quietly under your breath in tongues for your personal edification.  Not every tongue is for the whole congregation, some are for personal edification.

1 Corinthians 14:29-32 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.  But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

Paul was all about everything being done in order.  It is important to realize that the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.  What that means is that we are in full control of tongues, and we can stop speaking them when we want – there is no, the tongues have taken over me.  We start speaking in tongues, and as we speak there comes a point where the Spirit takes over, but at ANY TIME we need to, we can stop, we are not possessed and out of control.  If someone is, that is not of God.  By the way, Pastor also pointed out that as a musician he spent a lot of time playing in bars and never in a bar situation did he come across a drunk speaking in tongues, so the argument that it is of the devil does not make sense.  If it was, wouldn’t those who are drunk be speaking in tongues?

1 Corinthians 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

God is order, not confusion.

1 Corinthians 14:39-40  Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. Let all things be done decently and in order.

Pastor had Baptist roots which forbade speaking in tongues, when he first spoke in tongues he was afraid he was committing a sin.  He went to the bathroom, covered his mouth and prayed, God if this is not of you take it away.  If it is of you, show me in Your Word so that I understand.  God showed him the truth in the Word.

Not only did Paul speak of tongues – out of the mouths of two or more witnesses

Jude 20  But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,

You build yourself up by praying in the Spirit, acquiring more strength and power to do His will.

The ultimate question is, do we trust Jesus to work through us through the power of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit?

I hope this edifies you and blesses you.  It was a good reminder for me of where to go and how to explain tongues to others.



About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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