Water and Seed – sermon by Pastor Don Moore

Wednesday, March 02, 2011

Water and Seed by Pastor Don Moore

This is a closed captioned  transcript from a Sunday Sermon preached by Pastor Don Moore on 1/8/10

I lightly edited it for.  What is in [brackets] is what the congregation says.  This sermon aired on TBN.

SHOW 142

Well hello my friends.  We’re so glad that you’re with us.  I’m Pastor Don Moore, and we don’t want to waste time talking, so let’s get right into the Word.

Today’s teaching, I want to meld together an understanding of two words that Jesus talked quite a bit about.  One word is water, and the other word is seed.  And the two come together very importantly in terms of discussion of the receiving of the Word of God, but also the growing of the Word of God as well as surviving the onslaught that comes from our minds and comes from other people against the Word of God.

Now, in the book of John, in the third chapter Nicodemus, who is one of the teachers of the Law, comes to Jesus at night, and this is a very powerful passage.  I want to read a little bit of it and then let’s get some clarification…. Yes.  Here it is.  And so, Nicodemus comes, “Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”  Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”  Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.”  And then Jesus, in verse six, gives us a clear and interesting distinction.  He says, “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”  And then in verse 8 He tells us. “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes.  So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.” 

So here we have a teaching that Jesus is saying that to be born again is by the action of the Spirit, and He says that when the Spirit moves in this way, we may not see it coming or see it going, but we know that it was spiritual, that the Spirit did something.  But prior to that, He tells us that the Water, He says that you must be born of water.

Now, when I grew up, a young man in the Gospels and all, it was taught that that water is from the water that is in the belly of the pregnant woman.  That when her water breaks, that is the water, so you must be born of water.  The water, you know, that fluid that comes out.  But that can’t be so because it says flesh is born to flesh and Spirit to spirit.  So we have the flesh and we have spirit and therefore flesh is not pregnancy and the water, all of that, is that all not physical?  It is.   And so it is of the flesh.

But He says something interesting.  He says you must be born of water.  Therefore, we must remember something.  The Bible is it’s own definition of its own terms.  The Bible, when it uses Bible terms, we must look into scripture to find out what it’s talking about.  And therefore, water here, is not referring to H2O, nor is it referring to pregnancy of the fluid, nor is it saying baptism.  This has been taught for a long time, that it is of baptism.  But isn’t baptism of the flesh?  Isn’t it physical?  It is a spiritual act that we are carrying out, but we are carrying it out in the flesh realm.

We take our physical bodies, our fleshly bodies, and immerse them in physical water and we come up out of the water.  Is that not the flesh making a decision to go down and the flesh coming up?  And we know for a fact, many people, many people get wet but don’t get changed in baptism.  Therefore, it has to be flesh upon flesh, when what the Apostle is telling us, what Jesus, as an Apostle, as a Prophet, as a Teacher, as the Great I AM. Is He not saying that there is an experience from God of the Spirit causing change?  But there’s water.  What is that water?  So, if we’re gonna say it’s not the fluid.  If we’re going to say it’s not the water of baptism.

We’d have to look into the Scriptures to find other places where there is mention of water and see if we can get what the Bible says this water is.  Now, when we look at this, we realize that, from the other scriptures, we have a number of passages that can help us with this.  One is in Ephesians, Ephesians 5:26  It tells us that Husbands should wash their wives in the water of the Word.  Washing them in what?  The water of the Word.   And then it also tells us in 1 Peter, let’s turn there.  1 Peter, Chapter 1, verse 22-23 and this is a very powerful passage that Peter gives us in Chapter 1, And He says, beginning at verse 22.  “Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart,”  And here it goes, verse 23, are you ready?  “…having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible,…”  How?  “…through the word of God which lives and abides forever,…”  So we can see from these passages of scripture that the Word of God is not only referred to as seed, but it is also referred to as water.  And we have the washing of water, through the Word.

For you Bible students, you can also look up Ezekiel 26 verse 25 and Titus Chapter 3 verse 5.  These are also references to the mystery of the Word of God as being the Water of God.

Now, let’s take a look at the seed.  We go into the book of Mark, well, let’s go to Matthew first.  No, let’s go to Mark.  Let’s go to Matthew, let’s go to Mark.  Which do you want to go to?  Ok, we’ll go to Matthew.  So, in the book of Mark, I got a kick out of that.  I don’t know if that helped anybody, but that sure helped me.

In the book of Mark, in the 4th Chapter verse 14.  The book of Mark in the 4th Chapter.  Jesus is talking about the parable of the sower.  And right away in verse 14, we want to look at that.  Verse 14.  Here’s what He says.  “The sower sows the word.  The sower sows the word.”  So we have that the Word of God is also expressed as water, but we see here that Jesus is using it as an expression of seed.  And He says that the sower goes to sow seed.

Now, in our culture, we don’t see many sowers.  But a sower was one, he’d have a bag over his shoulder filled with seeds.  He’d reach in and he would then spread the seed over the soil that had been opened up and prepared.  They’d dig in, grab a handful, and he’s sow it.  So He says, then, that the sower, which is a picture now of the believer, a picture of the saint, a picture of the teacher, a picture of the preacher, he takes the Word and he spreads it.  You, my friends, are also sowers, and you should be spreading the Word of God, sharing it with neighbors and friends, with your children and people that come into your life.  Spreading it about.  Believing that some of it is going to, like the scripture says, is going to fall on thorny soil.  Some of it’s going to be choked out by the worries and the cares of this life.  But the promise of God is, some of it will fall on good soil, and bring forth a crop, 30, 60, and even a 100-fold blessing.

Now in seed, when we talk about seed, you know, pastors can’t help it, but to talk about sowing financial seed and bringing forth.  But in this particular parable of the sower, Jesus is talking about sowing the Word of God.  And then in Mark Chapter 4, if we look again, at this passage, as we follow it to its natural conclusion, He tells us something in verse 21.  He says, “Is a lamp brought to be put under a basket or under a bed?  Is it not to be set on a lampstand?  For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light.”  A little bit later He says, “Take heed what you hear.  Take heed what you hear.”  He says, “With the same measure you use,…”  to hear  “…it will be measured to you; and to you who hear, more will be given.  For whoever has, to him more will be given; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.”

This passage is not talking about money, He’s talking about hearing what the sower has sown.  Hearing the water of God, drinking in the water of God.  And so we get a better picture by realizing that a person who hears the Word of God, guess what?  His hearing will enlarge.

Romans 10:17 says what?  “Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.”  Doesn’t it?  Therefore, our faith is increased because we hear more of the Word, and if we hear more, then He says, more Word will be given to us, if we hear.  Now, let’s look at it in another further passage, in the same text.  In the same book of Mark.  “And He said, “The kingdom of God...”  watch this.  “The kingdom of God is as if a man should scatter seed on the ground, and should sleep by night and rise by day, and the seed should sprout and grow, he himself does not know how.  For the earth yields crops by itself: first the blade, then the head, after that the full grain in the head.  But when the grain ripens, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come.

In this passage we get a lot.  Remember, the Word is the seed.  The sower sows the Word of God, the Water of God grows the seed, because faith comes by hearing, hearing by the Word of God.  The Seed is the Word we water the Word with more Word, and that Word brings forth more Word for those that will hear.  But He says something, sow the seed, not knowing how it’s going to sprout.  Too often we judge people that we minister to.  We tell them about Jesus and we expect that they’re going to be born again and on fire for the Lord overnight.  But He says, you don’t know the seed that you sow and that you water, you don’t know how it’s going to spring forth.  And Jesus tells us that at first it’s going to come up just a little bit, then a little bit more, then a little bit more, then it breaks forth unto the harvest.

We get another clear picture, and I love talking about seeds.  But the mustard seed is the one that Jesus really nails down.  Let’s take a look at the mustard seed.  In verse 30, Jesus talks about the mustard seed and He says, “To what shall we liken the kingdom of God?  Or with what parable shall we picture it?  It is like a mustard seed which, when it is sown on the ground, is smaller than all the seeds on the earth; but when it is sown, it grows up and becomes greater than all herbs, and shoots out large branches, so that the birds of the air may nest under its shade.

Now you might be wondering why did Pastor Don have this big artificial tree here.  Oh I know, on TV it looks real, but trust me, it’s plastic.  But look at this beautiful picture.  Let’s say, if this were a mustard seed, we would be getting an example and we can understand the mystery of it.  He is saying that the mustard seed’s small.  If you shake out some pepper out of a pepper mill, the seeds are very, very small.  That’s how small mustard seeds are.  They’re just little tiny specks.  But a mustard seed would grow to a bush like this.  It would be big.  And it would have a lot of stuff.  And He says the birds would come, and notice we’ve got these nice artificial, can’t fly red birds here.  And they nest in it, and they find a place of shade in it.

Jesus is telling us that faith, when we look at faith and the Word of God, watch this now.  The Word of God is water, it causes things to grow, seed causes what?  Something to spring up and be multiplied.  In other words, our seeds are Words of God, Romans 10:17 “Faith comes by hearing, hearing by the Word of God.”  If we will speak and sow the Word of God, guess what?  It will grow the largest, it will grow the largest of all things on earth.  In other words, it will cause growth that will be greater than doing anything else we could do, if we will have mustard seed faith.

We need to know something about mustard seed faith.  Faith, described as mustard seed, Jesus is trying to tell us two things.  First of all, it has been told to me, that the mustard seed cannot be cross pollinated with anything else.  In other words, you cannot mix doubt with your faith.  You cannot mix unbelief with your faith.  You cannot mix wishing and hoping with your faith.  That your faith must remain pure.  And so, faith, though, mustard seed faith, means that it is pure, it is faith without doubt in it.

And then, one of the greatest teachings of all, Jesus said, mustard seed, it can be small as a mustard seed and your faith can move mountains. Well, what did He mean?  What was the mystery?  He is saying, that our understanding of faith has been wrong.  We’ve prayed for years, “Lord, give me more faith.”  Well, you can’t get more faith.  You can only get, listen to me carefully, either you have faith or you don’t.Mustard seed, small as a mustard seed, if you even have that much faith, you have enough to move a mountain.  You don’t need anymore faith because faith, my brothers and my sisters, it is qualitative, in the sense that you may have faith for sickness, but not have faith for salvation. You may have faith for walking on water but not have faith for the common cold.  You may have faith for healing of cancer, but you may not have faith for blind eyes being opened.

You may be like the apostles, who had faith for the multiplication of fish and loaves, but when they saw the water troubled, they were afraid and thought that they would die.  They did not have faith for that.

So in conclusion, my brothers and my sisters, let us remember that the Word of God is the water of God, the water is the Word, the Word is water.  That seed, when He’s talking about seed, He is talking about faith that can come by the planting of the right Words.  And that Water and the Words are right.  And we are but sparrows, we are pictured as these birds that can hide in the tree of faith.  We are pictured as birds that can find the shade by faith.  We can find the secret place, a hiding place.  We can find a place of security.  We can be like the little sparrow, that the song talks about.  That if we keep our eyes on Christ, our seed faith will grow.

The Word of God, the Water of God will pour upon us, cleansing us and provide for us, not just a hiding place and a place of safety, but also a place of power.  May this word richly, richly get down into your heart.  Be careful, make sure you’re sowing Word Seed.

The money thing is true and it works, but your seed faith must also be the fruit of your mouth and the Water of God, and He says, that if you have that, out of your belly will flow rivers of living water.  God bless ya.

Let us now enjoy the music of minister Joy Fisher Pollard.  (Singing)  Why should I feel discouraged?  Why should the shadows come?  Why should my heart be lonely and long for Heaven my home?  Jesus is my portion.  My constant friend is He.  And His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He’s watching me.  His eye is on the sparrow, and I know, I know He’s watching me.  Let not your heart be troubled.  His tender words I hear.  And resting in God’s goodness, I lose all my doubt and fear.  Go by the path He leadeth, only one step at a time I see.  Still, His eye is on the sparrow, and I know, I know He’s watching me.  His eye is on the sparrow, and I know, I know He’s watching me.  That’s why I sing, because I’m happy.  And I sing because I’m free.  His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He’s watching me.  His eye is on the sparrow, and I know, I know He’s watching me.  That’s why I sing, I sing because I have to.  Oh, I sing because Jesus set me free.  His eye is on the sparrow, and I know, I know He’s watching me.  His eye is on the sparrow, and I know, I know He’s watching me….

(singing)  Oh Lord, there is no one like you.  Not in Heaven, or earth, or beneath.  You spoke the Word and formed the mountains, and you breathed your Spirit in me.  You are awesome.  You are marvelous.  You made the planets.  You made each tiny babe.  You are mighty.  You are wonderful.  Maker of Heaven and earth, and me.  Maker of Heaven and earth, and me.  By your Word you created the mountains, the stars as your story still stand.  By your love, you sacrificed Heaven’s Treasure, scribed my name in the palm of your hand.  You are awesome.  You are marvelous.  You made the planets.  You made each tiny babe.  You are mighty.  You are wonderful, maker of Heaven and earth, and me.  Maker of Heaven and earth and me.  You are awesome.  You are marvelous.  You made the planets.  You made each tiny babe.  You are mighty.  You are wonderful.  Maker of Heaven and earth and me.  Maker of Heaven and earth and me.  Maker of Heaven and earth and me…

(singing)  Hallelujah, hallelujah, you are Holy God alone.  Hallelujah, hallelujah, you are Holy God alone.  Jehovah Jireah, Jehovah Rapha, Jehovah Nissi, Ts-idtkenu, You’re my Provider, You are my Fortress.  You are my Shield, and my Righteousness.  Hallelujah, hallelujah, You are Holy God alone.  Hallelujah, hallelujah, You are Holy God alone.  Jehovah Jireah, Jehovah Rapha, Jehovah Nissi, Ts-idtkenu.  You’re my Provider, You are my Fortress.  You are my Shield, and my Righteousness. …

About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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