Journey to healing by John Whipple and comments by Pastor Don Moore

Friday, December 17, 2010

Journey to healing by John Whipple and comments by Pastor Don Moore

Notes from a teaching presented 10/22/10

I am combining John’s testimony with Pastor Don’s comments on what John shared because they both work together to give a complete understanding.

John is in the process of being healed of Parkinson’s disease, and in this process God is showing him some truths that are beneficial for all believers.

Being born again is not an event but a daily conversion process and there are still challenges that he is facing.

John gave us a handout with what he called a tree of iniquity where the various limbs of the tree represented sins that he had to deal with.

John pointed out that as he began the process of giving up certain sins (self-centeredness, selfishness, pride, hatred and an unforgiving spirit) he began to receive blessings.  God is helping him overcome the challenges of lust and other desires and now John is in the process of receiving his healing.

John said that one of the things that he kept doing was finding ways to escape (drugs, alcohol, and other things to deaden pain).  He had to face these.  Initially he felt that because of his sickness he deserved the ways of escape.

Webster defines deserve as:  earn by service (to serve) merit, be entitled to.

Obstacle is defined by Webster as escapism – morbid desire to escape from the realities of life by concentrating on some other interest.

And John said that he felt justified in doing this.  His justification was:  you deserve this because you are sick.

The cure is self-examination and spiritual realignment, with confidence, compassion and prayer.

John said, when desire has conceived it, it gives birth to sin, and sin, when it is full-grown brings forth death.  While sin does not bring spiritual death for the believer, it can bring physical death.


James 1:15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

1 Corinthians 11:27-31 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.  For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.

1 John 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

(Heather’s note) What John did, he did under the direction of the Holy Spirit, and is not something that everyone would do.  This is John’s journey to healing.  The Holy Spirit might lead you in a different way.  John shared some very personal challenges he was facing, and how he began to overcome them.

John had to get over anger with his ex-wife.  He was led to give up taking prescription pain pills and turned to prayer and belief in the healing power of God.

He has to be careful to not think or speak anything classified as negativity.  As he did this, the pain lessened.

The first week he was positive, upbeat and felt ok.  He was beginning to bring himself into spiritual alignment.  Not always did he succeed, but as time went on he got better at this.

He has to practice the process daily, and is getting closer and closer to the point where his faith will be able to receive the healing.  He knows that at the right time he will go into Pastor’s office and have Pastor Don pray for him and receive his complete healing.  Pastor Don agrees.

Pastor Don’s comments:

Unsaved people do not know the Gospel.  The more we know the more is required of us to stand in faith. No matter how challenging the problem we need to stand. Stand and as we are tested we build strength and are able to help others. We are not alone, and it is never too late.

Moses was 80 years old when he entered the ministry.  God gave him full health until he was 120 years old, and he died and Deuteronomy 34 tells us that his eyes were not dim and his natural vigor was not diminished.

Our struggle is a learning process.  Jesus would heal people and tell them to go their way and sin no more.

Whatever we are going through God is permitting it for a greater purpose.  Some face their mountain challenge carefully and slowly going up the side, others go up quickly.  If you go straight up there is a greater risk of falling and that can cause more damage.  Yet God sometimes chooses to let a person be healed quickly.  In other situations the process is slow and step by step.  Faith is built in either situation. But sometimes if things come to easy it is easy to quit on faith the moment a challenge comes.  But if faith is built slowly, brick by brick, the foundation is stronger and not as easily shaken when troubles come.  But God knows the best way to deal with our situation.

The woman with the issue of blood was told by Jesus that her faith made her whole.
The paralytic man that was let down from the roof by his four friends, was healed on the faith of his friends.  Jesus told the man that his sins were forgiven, and that he was to pick up his bed and walk.

John’s tree was a good image.

1 John 5:17-21  All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.  We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one. And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

We have to go forward with a heart-felt desire to get results, and get people filled with the Word of God.  If they are getting enough Word in them it will help them to stop going over the same ruts in the road.  Are we willing to believe the elders and teachers and bring our lives in conformity with the truth?  If we know the truth and do not obey it, we will end up in worse shape.  We need to know that God wants us delivered.

But God expects us to take the steps to change the that He shows us to change.  We have to make a decision to change.  We may know we need to change but do we desire it?  It is not enough to say, “I’m a good person.”  There has to be faith.  We can’t avoid the steps and go have a picnic.

The Gospel is true.  John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Acts 3:19-21 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

We need to deal with what we got wrong. We are not going to take our baggage to Heaven.  So, it is wrong to think that we are able to keep that baggage here in God’s Kingdom.  We need to make a personal assessment of who am I and where am I?

Where am I now?  Where am I going?

Pastor Don received the calling to full time ministry 5/6/86.

He received the following verse: Isaiah 52:11 Depart! Depart! Go out from there, touch no unclean thing; go out from the midst of her, be clean, you who bear the vessels of the LORD.   And then in his spirit, Pastor Don was told that if you put your hand to the plow you can’t turn back.

Where am I now?  Where have I been?  If we are open, honest, transparent, and repenting, that is how God fixes us.

Pastor Don told us to not hold anything against anyone.

Jesus said:  Mark 11:25-26  And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.  But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses.

The Gospel has no fudge factor.  Jesus is the only way to the truth.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

Jesus says the truth.

In Acts 3 Peter gave an assessment of the people, speaking about how they rejected Jesus in ignorance.  Once they receive the assessment they may like it or not like it, but Peter spoke the truth and they have the choice how they respond.  The grace of God takes away our sins, past/present/future, and we can use it to minister to others.

1 John 5:16-17 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

The life mentioned in this passage is the Zoe kind of life, the God kind of life, life eternal in Heaven with God.  Some may have committed sin, but still be saved, that is a sin not leading to death.  Death in this passage is separation from God in the eternal, in the place where there is no zoe.

The spiritual life is life of God, zoe, works by faith.  You do not receive salvation by works, but once you are saved, you choose to do good works because you are saved, and the fruit of your salvation is good works.  For those who are spiritually dead, that death is the cessation of spiritual life.

Revelation 21 and 22 speak of the New Heaven and New Earth and the zoe kind of life.

Those who reject God will end up in hell.  God is not going to send anyone to hell, those who go to hell are the ones who make the choice to get away from God.

Some people feel they have committed the blaspheme of the Holy Spirit.  Pastor Don went over what is entailed in the blaspheme of the Holy Spirit.

Hebrews 6:1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,

We as a Church are still debating dead works.  For example, opening up a food pantry and hope that you will get to Heaven doing good works in the Church,  We are to go on to perfection and leave dead works, going rather to faith toward God.

Hebrews 6:2  of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

There are many baptisms, there is the baptism of repentance (John the Baptist), the Baptism into the Holy Spirit, the Baptism into the Father, the Baptism into the Body of Christ, ad Water Baptism.

The laying on of hands deals with passing the anointing, sealing covenants.

Resurrection of the dead – that Jesus rose from the dead and that in the end times so will those who have died will rise.

And there is eternal life and judgment.

Pastor Don has covered in great depth these elementary principles in previous studies on the book of Hebrews. He covered these over a series of many Friday Bible studies.  Here is the first of the series, dealing with the baptisms.  Once you have that date you can read the rest of the posts following.  This post has a picture of some of the ones attending our Bible study.  You are always welcome if you are in town at 12:30 on Fridays.

Hebrews 6:3  And this we will do if God permits.

This is prophetic. God permitted, but man didn’t.

To commit the unpardonable sin, there are many requirements that must be met.  Hebrews 6:4-5  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,

It is impossible for those who were once enlightened – which means that they have walked fully in the Spirit, know the truth of God, have been able to delineate Scripture, and are aware of the powers of the ages to come.  For a person to commit the unpardonable sin they must be well-versed and fully functioning  in ALL five of these points.  An ordinary person or a baby Christian would not qualify under this.  This would apply to someone who once walked in the fullness of the Spirit and then fell away.  Most believers do not do this.

Hebrews 6:6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

If a person was walking fully in Salvation, in the gifts of the Spirit, understanding the Word of God, and all the precepts, and then they choose to reject their Salvation, Jesus cannot die again on the Cross for them.  He died once for all.  He cannot shed His blood a second time for the person, so then they have committed the unpardonable sin.

One example is Judas – he operated in the gifts of the Spirit, knew Jesus, knew Jesus was Savior, and chose to betray Jesus.  Judas was remorseful but did not repent.    satan and all his fallen angels cannot be forgiven.  satan and the angels rebelled with full knowledge of what he did.  satan was not sorry he tried to take down God, and satan still keeps trying to do this.

There are spiritual laws and natural laws.  You can have healing faith and still be working iniquity.

Faith will work all the time.  It can work even when you are having faith for something that is not beneficial to you  Faith applied to the will of God is beneficial.

The principle of electricity works if you are using electricity for good purposes or for killing someone.

Matthew 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

In the new age and occult, the Biblical principles are used, but God is not given the credit or glory.

Hebrews 6:11-12 And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence to the full assurance of hope until the end, that you do not become sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

We don’t want to be sluggish, we want to be quick.

We need to imitate those who have gone before us through faith and patience, and we will inherit the promises.

I pray this blesses you.



About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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