Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 by Pastor Don Moore

Thursday, April 15, 2010

Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 by Pastor Don Moore

We are taking a detailed look at the book of Isaiah. Pastor Don did a bit of a summary for we had many new people at Bible study.  Sometimes on a Friday afternoon we have to add more tables to fit all the people in which is a blessing.

Here is a picture of one of our recent Friday Bible studies:


Pastor Don is seated at the left of the lady in the red shirt.

Pastor Don pointed out that spiritual things are hidden in the Scriptures so you need to carefully read to seek them out, but the Bible is it’s own dictionary.  The enemy is called by many names, lucifer, satan, devil, dragon.  The eternal being; lucifer has many names, and can disguise himself so that those on earth do not realize his influence. We see this today in the new age movements which are very skilled at hiding a lie amongst a lot of truths.  Another name given to him int he bible is the king of babylon.  Babylon was considered the cradle of civilization.  Early stories about Babylon include those of Nimrod and the Tower of Babel.

satan masquerades himself as an angel of light – enlightenment.  He tries to convince people they have special dispensations, that they are more superior than the rest of us, better at politics or theology, etc. What he wants to do is to get us to trust our knowledge, intellect, and emotions, to get us to become prideful.  He is successful by stealth (silent, deadly taking by subtle force), but then he comes down hard on those who accept his lies.

Someone asked about the postmortem experience, can a person be saved in those few seconds after they died and before their spirit leaves their body. They also wondered about what happened to the souls that never knew Jesus, would they go to hell because they did not know Jesus. Pastor Don replied that with salvation, only God knows the heart and spirit of a person, we cannot make a determination of the person’s eventual outcome – only God can do that. We don’t know if with the last breath they cried out to Jesus – only God knows that.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit,

Jesus died for all men, but it is the person’s decision to accept this gift of salvation or not. Pastor Don told us to not wait too long to choose if we haven’t chosen for we never know the hour or second of our death and we may not have those few seconds to call out to Jesus.  We can be dead in the flesh, but we are ALIVE in the Spirit.

1 Peter 3:19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

Pastor asked us, why did Jesus preach to those in Sheol, in prison, if there was not a decision to be made.

1 Peter 3:20  who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

These are people who lived before the time of Noah, before Moses, and those who lived under the law of Moses, but did not know Jesus.  Moses died under the Law of Moses.

1 Peter 3:21-22 There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,  who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.

Jesus goes and preaches to the souls in prison to what end? They cannot be judged until they have heard the Gospel message. They were in the spirit, and thus out of their body, but could not make a decision for Christ until they heard the Gospel.

Isaiah 6:5-7 So I said:  “Woe is me, for I am undone! Because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.” Then one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his hand a live coal which he had taken with the tongs from the altar. And he touched my mouth with it, and said: “Behold, this has touched your lips; your iniquity is taken away, and your sin purged.”

Isaiah was taken up to Heaven in the Spirit and saw the throne of God. He realized that he was a man of unclean lips. The angel took a coal from the the altar with tongs and touched Isaiah’s lips. God cleansed Isaiah through this.  Some of the saints will have to be cleansed before they can be in the presence of God. If your name is written in the Book of Life, you are going to have to unload at the eye of the needle all the baggage you have been carrying around with you.  The eye of the needle is a very small opening in the wall. Those who drove camels would have to unload the camels so that the goods could be searched. The camel would crawl through the eye of the needle on its knees, then the goods would be brought in and reloaded on the camel. We have the decision to make, will we remove the baggage and let God clean us?

Revelation 21:4  And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Why are there tears? In the presence of God there will be no hidden truths. We will be held accountable for every idle word. Salvation comes by faith in our hearts knowing that Jesus is Lord and we cannot get saved by the Law, it is accepting His Sacrifice for us on the Cross.  Only God can judge people regarding salvation, we are not able to do that.

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.

The Tabernacle of God is with us. We will all have ideas that need to die at the Cross.

Ephesians 4:9  (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?

Sheol was in the depths of the earth, the earth’s core is fiery. These were the people caught in fire and brimstone, but also in the subsection of Sheol known as Abraham’s bosom. In Abraham’s bosom as we learned from Jesus there was no fire or torment like what Lazarus experienced. They had to stay there until Jesus preached the Gospel and they could make their choice – now Abraham’s bosom is empty, and the only place those who reject Jesus and are waiting for the final judgment is hell – the fire and brimstone.

Ephesians 4:10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

Jesus fills all things, He not only descended but ascended. Jesus died for all (past, present, future) and He died once for all. Whoever follows the path of salvation are saved, those who don’t wait the final judgment.  God is just, and each and every person needed the opportunity to hear the Gospel. Without all being given the opportunity, God could not judge all flesh justly.

There will be a rapture – and there are precedents in the Old Testament regarding this. Enoch walked with God, Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind,

Luke 16:26-31 (Lazarus in Sheol) And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’ “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’  And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’  But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”

God will judge no man until they have heard the Gospel.

Ephesians 4:8 Therefore He says:  “When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men.”

Psalm 68:18 You have ascended on high, You have led captivity captive; You have received gifts among men,  even from the rebellious, that the LORD God might dwell there.

Gifts will be given to God. The Lord was able to lead captivity captive. Who weren’t saved at the time?

We can’t build a theology on a grey area where scripture doesn’t clearly delineate. We can’t judge who will go to Heaven or Hell.

Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 speak of lucifer.

Isaiah 14:12-15 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart:  ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit.

Ezekiel 28 speaks of the King of Tyre. This was a spiritual area, not the physical city of Tyre.  For example the Emperor of Rome also was the Emperor of Judea and Greece and all the other countries that Rome conquered.  The King of Tyre was a spiritual jurisdiction of this spirit being. So when they speak of the King of Babylon and the King of Tyre they are not speaking about a physical ruler, but a spiritual jurisdiction.

Ezekiel 28:12b (speaking of lucifer) You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.

There were four beings in Eden – The Lord, Adam, Eve and the serpent. The term “serpent” is a description of how he acts and performs.

The serpent, lucifer wanted to rule and reign forever. He planed to replace God and make himself god over everything. God tells lucifer that he was cursed, and lucifer’s reaction is to try and destroy what is beloved to God – destroying God’s creation – the man and woman. Had Adam and Eve stood up to the serpent things would have had a different outcome. They could have said, “God said it and He meant it.”  What satan wants to do is everything he can to kill and prevent the bloodline that leads to salvation to continue. He started with Adam and Eve, but it continued when he tried to pervert the blood line – the sons of god mating with the daughters of men. That is why God needed to send the flood, for only Noah and his family had a pure bloodline – and that was needed for Jesus to be born.

Genesis 6:1-4 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Notice that it says that man’s days would be 120 years.  120 times 50 jubilees = 6,000 years.  The giants on earth from this ungodly mating are the fodder that created the mythologies. God wiped out all but Noah’s family, but now we are seeing more and more demonic activity again, and it is increasing. We are not at the time ordained for God to begin to destroy the seed for the last time – destroy it in the Lake of Fire.

Pastor Don then pointed out how there are various demonic strongholds in a city. For example areas of prostitution or drug addiction, where there is a higher than normal incidence of those activities indicate a stronghold.

Ezekiel is not speaking of the natural King of Tyre, but of a stronghold of satan.

Ezekiel 28:13b  The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes  was prepared for you on the day you were created.

Workmanship -satan was created perfectly.

Ezekiel 28:14-17  You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you. By the abundance of your trading you became filled with violence within, and you sinned; therefore I cast you as a profane thing out of the mountain of God; and I destroyed you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the fiery stones. Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; I cast you to the ground, I laid you before kings, that they might gaze at you.

Love of money and trade. We see that satan promises lies to us, then when we get settled in that love of money, trade,and riches, he takes it away leaving you in worse shape. The enemy’s greatest desire is to steal your joy. He wants us blinded with pride – our pride will snare us. The greatest tool of the enemy is to get us to focus on our expectations, not on God. We can be unhappy with ourselves and our expectations can drive us deeper into unhappiness. We need to be focusing on what God has told us we should be doing, not on what everyone else is telling us we should do.  Our happiness comes from focusing on God.

Praying your day is blessed.


About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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