Faith Part 2 by Pastor Don Moore

Friday, April 24, 2009

Faith Part 2 by Pastor Don Moore

You can read Part one here. Pastor Don continued by reading the following faith scriptures.

Matthew 8:23-27 Now when He got into a boat, His disciples followed Him. And suddenly a great tempest arose on the sea, so that the boat was covered with the waves. But He was asleep. Then His disciples came to Him and awoke Him, saying, “Lord, save us! We are perishing!”  But He said to them, “Why are you fearful, O you of little faith?” Then He arose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm. So the men marveled, saying, “Who can this be, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?”

Matthew 9:37-29 When Jesus departed from there, two blind men followed Him, crying out and saying, “Son of David, have mercy on us!” And when He had come into the house, the blind men came to Him. And Jesus said to them, “Do you believe that I am able to do this?” They said to Him, “Yes, Lord.” Then He touched their eyes, saying, “According to your faith let it be to you.

We need to have faith – to believe, to say that it is mine. I got it.

Mark 11:23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says.

We need to SPEAK to it and it is a done deal.  We need to release our faith.  When you pray with someone you need to believe in AGREEMENT.

If there is no other person, you can agree with the Holy Spirit.  I know by faith, but to reverse a condition we also need the agreement of the Holy Spirit.  God does not give us authority over anyone else, but we do have authority over ourselves.  We do have authority to speak over our children and family by faith, but as they grow older and of the age of accountability, we need to speak in agreement, we cannot override their will.  If you are praying with people who are in unbelief, only God could override their unbelief.  We can work with neutral faith, or faith, or hoping and wishing.

Pastor Don talked about supernatural faith, telling us that to do a creative miracle takes more than simple faith.

Moses did not stand at the Red Sea and know what was going to happen.  He had the faith to know that if He obeyed God, God would show up.

1 Corinthians 12:7-11 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

The faith mentioned in the list of Spiritual Gifts in 1 Corinthians 12 is supernatural faith, it is a faith that we can’t generate ourselves.  God gives it to us.  It is the faith that allowed Jesus and allows ourselves to do great miracles.  It allowed Jesus to cast out demons, heal deaf ears, feed the 5,000, walk on water, etc.

When Jesus spoke to Peter about feeding the 5,000, Peter saw with his eyes the large crowd, but Andrew came to Jesus and told him a boy had a few fish and loaves of bread.  Andrew realized that this was a supernatural problem, and that supernatural faith was needed to do this miracle.

When we are having a problem believing in faith, we need to be honest about it, and say that we don’t have faith for the situation, and ask God for supernatural faith.  Natural faith may not occur because circumstances and other’s will may seen bigger.  Our feelings can cause us to go forward with stuff that the Holy Spirit is not in agreement with.

Moses, in His faith just had to abide.  He had to lift his staff when God instructed him to do so and see what God would do.  Moses had no idea what God would do, and if Moses did not obey God by raising his staff, the Israelites would not have survived. We need to hear and obey.  Moses obeyed, he did not seek a confirming word from several people first.

Sometimes we pray for others in our enthusiasm and our enthusiastic feelings can override the other person’s faith and feelings.  Pastor Don, when he prays for those who are sick at church, unless God instructs him otherwise, does not do it publicly.  He waits until the sanctuary has emptied and those who are left are the believers who can agree with him in faith. God will not alter other people’s wills to make us look good.  And we also need to locate where the person is, some people are sick and want to stay sick.

We need to ask God:  Lord, what is my authority in this situation?  When we know our authority we can act on it and God can do what He planned to do.

ADMIT where we are in faith.  Are we believing in faith?  Do we want it to happen, or are we at the point of I’m done, I’ve tried everything and I can’t believe anymore?  There may be one more thing that I can do, so show me.  Ask the Holy Spirit to show us how to pray.

What does the Word say?

We have a WILL problem. You think you are willing for something to happen but in reality you’re wanting something else to happen.  If a person abides in the Lord, His will is subject to the Lord in the same way Jesus is subject to the Lord in Hebrews 2:5-9 For He has not put the world to come, of which we speak, in subjection to angels. But one testified in a certain place, saying: “What is man that You are mindful of him, or the son of man that You take care of him? You have made him a little lower than the angels; You have crowned him with glory and honor, and set him over the works of Your hands. You have put all things in subjection under his feet.” For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.

The disciple of the Lord is no match for satan. If we make a willful decision that does not line up with God, satan can have a field day.  If we make a willful decision we need to be willing to struggle it out.  If we are not fully submitted to God we will struggle it out as long as we want to do so, but then we will get frustrated and stop.  We will begin to pray in faith, pray and not see the results, decide to stop, and then not go on.

There is the authority of the Believer in Christ.  There are Scriptures that we can claim and hold onto that will result in change, change that God wants and change that we need to make to line up with His will and the scriptures.  We need His help to change.

As an example, Pastor Don told us that marriages are not always made in Heaven.  When dating you both present your best fronts to each other, but once married the truth comes out and couples need to learn to grow together to be one.  Your spouse is a good person, but there will be things about your spouse that annoy you and things you do that annoy your spouse.  At some point, as a couple, you need to stop and turn it over to the Lord.

Whenever we face problems we try to turn them over to the Lord.  But most Christians then take it back from the Lord and keep messing with it. God is telling us to abide in Him, but we don’t.  God promises us that our households will be saved.  When one member of the household gets saved, they want the rest of their household saved, but sometimes their meddling produces the opposite results.

Pastor Don said that sometimes people pray, Jesus I want them to treat me this way, do this, bring flowers, meet all of our wants. When we are married to a non-believer, we want the spouse to be changed.

Just because you say you are a Christian doesn’t mean that you are a believer.  Pastor Don said it is easy to believe when things are going well, but when times get tough, when things like what happened to Job happen, will you still believe?

If we have desires of the heart that do not line up with God’s word, God cannot honor that.  If our desire is to do something not helpful to the other person our yourself God will not honor that any more than we would honor a child’s temper tantrum.  If we want a person to change their behavior because their behavior annoys me, God may not be in that.  God is for reaching the other person in the best way possible for them, not just to make our lives easier.

People began asking questions about personal situations.  Here are some of the replies that may be helpful. I did not get all the questions.

We need to be honest with God and share with Him exactly where we are and what we can believe.  If we yell and scream that doesn’t move or change things.  The Bible tells us that we are the ones that have to change and work on our inner peace. We need to pay attention to our mouth and what we are saying.  If we do what we are supposed to do, then the person will have to change.  Shut up and do your work on your knees.  Come into agreement with the Holy Spirit about what to do with your husband.  Tell the Holy Spirit, “I’m done with trying to do this on myself, I am acting on the authority of the believer.”

The covenant relationship of a husband and wife cannot override a person’s will.  If a person belongs to God, God can change their will.

A father prays to God for his prodigal son, but the father cannot force the prodigal to change, the prodigal son has to change.  The prodigal had to get to the bottom, to the end of himself.  In the parable, the boy had to realize what his father’s house offered, and how eating pig slop was not where he wanted to be.

In our weakness we keep people from hitting the bottom of the pit, and from that place turning to God and allowing God to rule their lives. God wants to change us on the inside.

Pastor Don shared how, when he got saved, he wanted his wife to come to church and she resisted significantly.  He wanted Cynthia to come to church so the whole family would come, but God did not want Cynthia to just come to church, He wanted Cynthia’s heart.  God wanted to make Cynthia the Godly woman she is today.

When we want to help a person come to God we need to find out why it is people are doing what they are doing.  Find the father wound. Ask God why the person is the way they are and when you can find that out, your compassion changes.  You look at them a different way, and then you can get into agreement with God’s plan for them.

We tend to have our own agendas.  Your response to life can kill you.  If we take our response to life and add a demonic presence, it can make things worse.  But God has the advantage.  When we turn it over to God and learn from the losses, we come out a warrior.

Alcoholism is a lying spirit, and it pulls people to drink more and more and leaving them open for increasing oppression.

Stuff happens in life.  We need to bring into our environment prayer and the Word of God.  Our response to things has an impact on what happens.

Praying this blessed you.  It sure gave me some things to work on in my life.



About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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