Hebrews 12:18-19 by Pastor Don Moore

Tuesday, March 03, 2009

Hebrews 12:18-19 by Pastor Don

I enjoy our Friday Bible studies.  Sometimes as we begin a study we get pulled off onto a side journey that is awesome, this happened during this Bible study regarding the Third Day.

Hebrews 12:18-19 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore.

Pastor Don told us to look up Mt. Sinai in the back of our Bibles, teaching us how to use this tool.  We found in our Thompson’s Chain Link Bible that Mt. Sinai was 2444, and in my version on P.1871.  This led us to a listing of Scriptures that cover Mt. Sinai, and we went to look at some of those scriptures.

Exodus 16: 1, 4-7 And they journeyed from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt (4-7) Then the LORD said to Moses, “Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you. And the people shall go out and gather a certain quota every day, that I may test them, whether they will walk in My law or not. And it shall be on the sixth day that they shall prepare what they bring in, and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.” Then Moses and Aaron said to all the children of Israel, “At evening you shall know that the LORD has brought you out of the land of Egypt. And in the morning you shall see the glory of the LORD; for He hears your complaints against the LORD. But what are we, that you complain against us?”

In the morning – the new day they would see the glory of the Lord.  Joy comes in the morning.  God gave them a test to see if they would follow His instructions.  The people had been complaining about lack of food and they went to the priests to complain.  God heard the complaints of the people toward the priests.  It is important to remember our pastors, priests, and prophets are under God, and when we do not treat them right God is aware of that and that displeases God. Yet God rained down manna from Heaven for the people, statistics show it was a tremendous amount of provision from Heaven for the more than a million people.  Yet the people would ultimately end up grumbling about this divine gift from Heaven.

Exodus 16:10-12 Now it came to pass, as Aaron spoke to the whole congregation of the children of Israel, that they looked toward the wilderness, and behold, the glory of the LORD appeared in the cloud. And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “I have heard the complaints of the children of Israel. Speak to them, saying, ‘At twilight you shall eat meat, and in the morning you shall be filled with bread. And you shall know that I am the LORD your God.’”

God was speaking to the people from Mt. Sinai, and God sent the people bread from heaven (Jesus) and yet they wanted something else, Jesus was not enough.

Exodus 19:1 In the third month after the children of Israel had gone out of the land of Egypt, on the same day, they came to the Wilderness of Sinai.

It is here that we went on a bit of a side journey.  Pastor Don suggested we study every time the Scriptures say the THIRD DAY, for each time it mentions the third day it refers to the end times.  So we took a bit of a look to see that God confirms throughout the Scriptures about resurrection, deliverance, and the rapture, on every passage that mentions the third day.  Every time we see the third day, third year, third month it is a picture of the rapture and the Coming of the Lord.  The Church will take the mark of God, for the earth is not redeemed.

So we looked at a few third day Scriptures.

Genesis 1:9-13 Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good. Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. So the evening and the morning were the third day.

While this passage deals with the creation, often when the term “waters” is mentioned in Scriptures it can also refer to nations and at times water is God’s Word.  Here we see that the waters were gathered into one place and that caused dry land to be separated out.

Exodus 19:1-5 In the third month after the children of Israel had gone out of the land of Egypt, on the same day, they came to the Wilderness of Sinai. For they had departed from Rephidim, had come to the Wilderness of Sinai, and camped in the wilderness. So Israel camped there before the mountain. And Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain, saying, “Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel: ‘You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings and brought you to Myself. Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine

Notice in the THIRD month – God talks about separating the Israelites out from Egypt, and bearing them to Himself on eagles’ wings. The rapture will separate those believers who are prepared for the rapture, from those who aren’t.

Exodus 19:11 And let them be ready for the third day. For on the third day the LORD will come down upon Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people.

John 9:39 And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”

Jesus came to separate in judgment.

Then we went back to Hebrews 12:18 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest,

God is all holiness, Exodus 19:21 And the LORD said to Moses, “Go down and warn the people, lest they break through to gaze at the LORD, and many of them perish  Given man’s sinful nature, man could not even look upon God or they would perish.

Pastor Don told us there were a lot of praise songs in the 80’s about “Lord, I want to see your face.  That is an impossibility.  God’s glory is His hand and face.  If you see God’s hand be happy.  How will you have His glory without provision?  It is like saying, I want a loving, stingy father. The Holy Ghost is also the Hand of God, the fingers of God.

Hebrews 12:18-19  For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore.

Given the evidence of God’s glory, it caused those who heard and saw to be afraid, and they did not want to hear straight from God, but rather to Moses.  It is to their loss, for God wanted to have a relationship with all Israelites, not through an intermediary.

Hebrews 12:20-21 (For they could not endure what was commanded: “And if so much as a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned or shot with an arrow.”  And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, “I am exceedingly afraid and trembling.”)

God wields terrible, awesome power, so great that to us it seems awesome and terrible and we are afraid.  We cannot forget that the power of God to create carries with it also the power to kill.  Those who are sinful see the power of God as terrible.

God does not show up the way we think He ought to, and it is because of us.  Pastor Don talked about trying to get people in one accord, and pointed out that the larger the meeting the harder it is to get people into one accord.  God will not display His power just to show off.  The only exception is during an evangelical outreach where God will show signs and wonders to pull people toward Him and salvation. For believers we need to reach out to God in faith for as Hebrews 11:6 tells us, But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Hebrews 12:21 And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, “I am exceedingly afraid and trembling.”)

Moses was a friend of God, and Abraham talked to God face to face.

Hebrews 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,

We are surrounded by an innumerable company of angels.  The devil is a defeated foe and vastly outnumbered.  Demons are little cringing creatures, and they like darkness, fear the light of truth.  Within the realm of the seen and unseen there are more with us than against us.   We have tremendous back-up.

The book of Hebrews was written for believers under the new covenant who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and they have a spiritual vitality and a presence of God that is more than the Children of Israel who came to a Holy Mountain.  We have the the Holy Spirit within us.

Hebrews 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Jesus is the firstborn, and we can trust that our name is in the Book, we are registered in Heaven, signed, sealed, and delivered.  There is no “backsies”.  Pastor Don explained the term “backsies” to those who never had the advantage of playing marbles in the Bronx.  You could come with your marbles and shoot them, and sometimes you play but everyone comes away with the marbles that they brought.  Other times you play and whoever wins gets to keep the marbles they win – not giving them back, and they would call out “no backsies,” before the play began, and a person could go home marbleless.

Pastor Don then told us God has us and there is no backsies – not even our own stupidity can snatch us from His hand.

We read Hebrews 13:5 in the Amplified.  Let your character or moral disposition be free from love of money [including greed, avarice, lust, and craving for earthly possessions] and be satisfied with your present [circumstances and with what you have]; for He [God] Himself has said, I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor leave you without support. [I will] not, [I will] not, [I will] not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let [you] down (relax My hold on you)! [Assuredly not!]

The prodigal son, when he came to his senses and returned home, planning to be a servant in his Father’s house, was restored to his high position. We are never outnumbered.  What is given to us by God, we have perpetually, unless we say no and refuse it.  Most believers want to use their will to their maximum ability but our wills are often not strong enough, we need God and the angelic hosts’ help to strengthen our will, to remove obstacles, to change circumstances, time, and alter our vision.  We need to have our vision cleared so we can see that something that seems attractive is really a distraction, and when we improve our vision, seeing things the way God sees them, we can begin to regain our focus.

God will send ministering angels if we need them. We do not seek them or worship them, but at times God will send them to us.  Hebrews 1:13-14 But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool”? Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

The only one to sit at the right hand of God is Jesus.   Angels are sent forth to minister to us, for we inherit salvation through Jesus.  The Lord marshals forces for us, sends angels to us.  God is for us and gives His angels charge over us.

Hebrews 12:22-23  But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,

We are justified by Jesus – Justified – Just as If we never sinned.  We need to remember that God is judge of all, but because of Jesus we are justified.

Hebrews 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

Cain slew Abel because God approved of Abel’s offering. Abel’s blood called out to God, and Abel is a spirit in Heaven.  Our flesh cries out trying to cancel what the Spirit cries out.  The battle is when the inner man (spirit) rises up to fight and dominate the flesh.  The flesh does not want to give up, and only when we get moved by the Spirit of God can we begin to make progress in this battle.

Pastor Don loves to go boating and one day he saw on the river a barge going down river at low tide, fully loaded.  It drew all the water toward the barge away from the shoreline.  When the barge passed, the wake from the barge caused the waves to flow quickly back to shore in a violent wave.

We are in a similar eternal battle, where there is a violent clash in the heavenly realms between the Spirit of God and the fleshly nature.  In the above analogy the barge is the positive change that needs to take place to draw the water away from the shore and pull out the demons of the past, the inner child of the past, the things we need to change and discard – to pull them away from the shores of our lives, and then release a wave that comes crashing into our shores and fills us in a  different way.

The inner child of the past had to be broken for her to serve the Lord.  The wave causes the boat to move.  The devil says “no” before you get there.  Inside of you is a force that is the undertow – the wave that brings you back to God’s will.  It is a wave of God.  God is moving in you and to do this move He’s got to change you.  Sometimes it is a violent wave/clash if we are not yielding to the Lord.  Sometimes it emerges as an undertow, in other times it is a quiet wake. The wake of a boat can cancel the violent wave and if we keep going in God’s direction, doing what He wants, we do not have to be pulled into this violent wave.

There are times when I get caught in the wave, other times when I go God’s direction. Trust me, going God’s direction is much easier, but at times I am too hardheaded to do that.

Heather

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About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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