Eternal Judgment continued by Pastor Don Moore

Monday, May 12, 2008

Eternal Judgment Cont. by Pastor Don Moore

Part 1 of this Friday Bible study is here.  Wow, it seems so long since I have had any substantial computer time. I hope this gets remedied as the school year for my children winds down. I sure am missing visiting you more frequently.

Pastor Don was going over the history of Israel, starting with Adam and Eve, Noah, and now he spent time with the history of Abram, the smallest pagan tribe who God adopted and helped to grow into His tribe.  This tribe of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was given God’s covenant. No one could kill them off (a remnant always survived) and God always prospered them, and no matter who went against them, a remnant always survived, and through them, the rest of the world would get to know God.

When God picked them, he was looking for a tribe without idol worship and who was not intent on killing off their children to false gods. It would be through the tribe of Abram that God would send the Messiah who would save the world.

The Jews were called stiff necked, stubborn, hard headed. Pastor Don pointed out that in our families the children that exhibit these traits are the ones we pray the most for. Often Israel was portrayed in the Bible as a wayward wife, who was not faithful to her husband. But God prospered them. They were the smartest people on the planet, had good education, real estate, economics, and with God on their side, no matter who went to war against them, they would win. Everyone tried to do the Israelites in, the “ites”, Hitler. God promised to bless those who blessed them, and curse those who cursed them.

Pastor Don pointed out that a natural Jew who does not know the Messiah will have to go through the tribulation.

Although there are false teachings about how all will be saved in the end times, why would there be a judgment day without any consequences?

Revelation 20:13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

People will be judged according to their works, and Jesus told us that we would also be judged for every idle word that we say. Many who have died and come back to life point out that they saw something like a movie of their life, and they view all that they ever said or did. All is recorded, and they will see where they could have done a better job. If we are honest we will see that there will be a whole bunch of stuff on our “videos” that we don’t want to see or hear. The good news, is that we will miss this judgment, for we will have already stood before the Judgment seat of Christ, we won’t have to have the White Throne Judgment.

Revelation 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

The way our name is written in the Book of Life is if we receive Jesus into our lives. If we have rejected Jesus, and want nothing to do with Him, then our names will not be found written in the Book of Life.

Pastor Don spoke about the Bible Codes. How in the Torah there are hidden codes.  Isaac Newton felt that there were numeric codes hidden in the Bible. And one Jewish person was working on the Torah and discovered that in Deuteronomy by using skip codes (counting every so many letters and recording the next letter) that the Bible clearly spelled out the name of Messiah, all of his disciples, and the people around the Messiah that impacted His life. Michael Drosnin discovered, through the Bible Codes, that the Prime Minister of Israel at that time,  Yitzhak Rabin, was going to be shot. The Bible Codes also gave the names and time of the incident. Drosnin went to Rabin but Rabin went ahead to the meeting and was assassinated. Most of the time, though, the Bible codes are found after the incident occurs and confirms that God knew that it would happen.

Pastor Don then mentioned about Yacov Ramsel, who had Bible Codes revealed to him by God. Today many use the computer to seek out the codes. But God gave Ramsel a vision and showed him where to start and how many letters to count. In Isaiah 53, the name of Yeshua (Jesus) is listed multiple times.

There are computer programs that can be used to seek out Bible codes. And many have found their names, birth dates, and people around them in the Bible codes. The problem is we don’t know where to start or what the numbers to count are. But it may be possible that the Bible is the Book of Life.

Revelation 21:1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.

The sea can be a reference to the nations, and also water (which is the Word of God). We won’t need the written Word of God, for we will have God with us in this new heaven and new earth.

Revelation 21:22-24 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light. And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.

This is the nations of those who are saved and who will walk in the light of the Lamb (Jesus).

Revelation 21:25-27  Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there). And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it. But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

This is again the ages of the ages. Notice that there will be no Chronos time there, for we measure Chronos time with the sun and the moon, but there will be no sun or moon, no clock. But aonic time will still go on, the ages of the ages.

Revelation 22:1-2 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

The tree of life will be for the healing of the nations. There will be no division,no racism, we will be one new man.

Revelation 22:3-5 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads. There shall be no night there: They need no lamp nor light of the sun, for the Lord God gives them light. And they shall reign forever and ever.

Ages of the ages.

Revelation 22:14-15 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

God’s plan was to create a being that can fellowship with God. The Church will be elevated to God status, David said, are you not gods? But Jesus was talking about righteous, and we are not righteous in our own strength, but only through Him. We will never be God, but we will be AS gods. We will rule and reign as kings and priests with God, but we will be ruling in line with God’s Word.

God permitted us to spend 7,000 years on earth to separate the wheat from the chaff, to find the perfect fruit, those who were written in the Book of Life.

Pastor Don then asked us why then would there be those outside of the city who were still immoral? He pointed out that during this time there would still be birth going on, and those who were born during the tribulation would need to have time to make a choice to accept God or to reject Him. Once their decisions are made the clock of creation would be totally stopped and there would be a new age.

Revelation 22:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.”

There will be judgment.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

The future, this city is new

Revelation 21:2-8 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.” Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

This is again the ages of the ages.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

There are people who will be able to enter (who keep God’s commandments) and groups that will not be able to enter.

Revelation 22:17-18 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;

Deuteronomy Chapters 28-31 and Exodus explain about the plagues.

Revelation 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

This passage talks about all that is in Revelation, and that includes Chapter 21 and 22 regarding eternal judgment. So those who speak against judgment are disobeying this command of the Bible.

If anyone tells you they know what will happen after the White Throne Judgment and what happens with the Saints in the City, they are making it up.

The age of man will have ended according to the time period in the Bible. All that we know is that we are in the Covenant care of a loving God in the ages of ages. And this will lead to another age of prophetic time, but it will not be Chronos time.

We don’t know what happens to our cats, dogs, pigs.  It mentions that there is no sea, the sea is important to the stability of our current planet. We don’t know the new Adam, we don’t know if carnal life will exist. Those who do not pass the White Throne Judgment will be separated from God. There is no chance of reprieve, forgiveness, repentance for they rejected Christ, they made their choice.

Judas Iscariot will not be in Heaven. He had his choice, and rejected Christ. He will not have a chance to repent. We need to accept Jesus now, get it right now.

We then ran out of time so we will continue this next Bible study.

I pray that these teachings bless you.  Also praying that you have a wonderful day.



About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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