Laying on of hands and discernment by Pastor Don Moore

Monday, January 07, 2008

Laying on of Hands and discernment by Pastor Don

Taught 12/20/07

What is so much fun about our Bible studies is Pastor Don also is willing to teach were there is need. Sometimes we start off on one topic and a question diverts our study from the topic at hand to teaching where a person needs clarity. I want the kind of Bible knowledge Pastor Don has, so I can also teach were a person needs, knowing the Bible well enough to know where to go to illustrate the answer.

Guess what? LOL We are still in Hebrews 6:1-3. We use the New King James Version, but I thought it would be fun to see the Amplified version of this passage.

Hebrews 6:1-3 THEREFORE LET us go on and get past the elementary stage in the teachings and doctrine of Christ (the Messiah), advancing steadily toward the completeness and perfection that belong to spiritual maturity. Let us not again be laying the foundation of repentance and abandonment of dead works (dead formalism) and of the faith [by which you turned] to God, With teachings about purifying, the laying on of hands, the resurrection from the dead, and eternal judgment and punishment. [These are all matters of which you should have been fully aware long, long ago.] If indeed God permits, we will [now] proceed [to advanced teaching].

The NKJ Version Hebrews 6:1-3 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,  of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits.

Pastor Don gave us an assignment, to look up in our concordances every time the laying on of hands occurred. We were to see who laid their hands, the recipient of the hand laying, and the result. We brought this research to Bible study and have been systematically going over the verses we found. I missed one week of Bible study due to a snow storm, so I am going to share the verses covered and then bring you to 12/20’s Bible study. As you can see, I am almost caught up!

Friday Bible studies are usually not recorded, so I am sad that I missed one – But at least we have the verses.


Leviticus 16:21-22 Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, confess over it all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions, concerning all their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a suitable man. The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an uninhabited land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness.

Witnesses lay hands on blasphemer

Leviticus 24:14 Take outside the camp him who has cursed; then let all who heard him lay their hands on his head, and let all the congregation stone him.

Council of people to bless the Levites

Numbers 8:10 So you shall bring the Levites before the LORD, and the children of Israel shall lay their hands on the Levites;

To transfer sins or of peace for an offering – there are peace offerings and sin offerings.

Numbers 8:12 Then the Levites shall lay their hands on the heads of the young bulls, and you shall offer one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering to the LORD, to make atonement for the Levites.

Ordination or appointing to position of authority.

Numbers 27:18-20  And the LORD said to Moses: “Take Joshua the son of Nun with you, a man in whom is the Spirit, and lay your hand on him;  set him before Eleazar the priest and before all the congregation, and inaugurate him in their sight.  And you shall give some of your authority to him, that all the congregation of the children of Israel may be obedient.


Matthew 9:18 While He spoke these things to them, behold, a ruler came and worshiped Him, saying, “My daughter has just died, but come and lay Your hand on her and she will live.”

Matthew 9:29 (Blind Men) Then He touched their eyes, saying, “According to your faith let it be to you.”

Matthew 20:34 So Jesus had compassion and touched their eyes. And immediately their eyes received sight, and they followed Him.

Oh I sure wish I had been there to hear the teaching on the above verses, because the teachings on the following ones are so spectacular. I always get upset when I miss Bible study for I know that there are nuggets of gold to glean every week.

Mark 1:40-41 Now a leper came to Him, imploring Him, kneeling down to Him and saying to Him, “If You are willing, You can make me clean.” Then Jesus, moved with compassion, stretched out His hand and touched him, and said to him, “I am willing; be cleansed.”

Pastor Don said Jesus did not have to lay his hand on the leper, he could have spoken the healing, but Jesus was moved by compassion and reached out to touch one who needed His touch. It is compassion that led the healing – not a methodology.

The method of healing that Jesus used was determined by the Holy Spirit and was based on the need of the receiver and the faith of the receiver. The Holy Spirit knows what will assist the cause to release faith and get a person into agreement with God. Sometimes Jesus blew on the person, anointed the person, laid hands on the person or spoke to the person.

Pastor Don told us that the leper came up to Jesus and asked him, “If you are willing….” This was not a criterion for Jesus healing the person – it was not questioning Jesus’ willingness to heal. Some read this passage and decide that God will decide if He is willing to heal in one situation and not willing to heal in another, even though He could heal both situations. This is not the nature of God. God is always willing to heal.

The problem is not the willingness of God, but what is in our minds – do we think we are unworthy to become clean or healed? What the man was wondering was if Jesus would reach out and touch him, violating the Mosaic law which would make a person ceremonially unclean to touch a leper. (Heather’s note, the instant Jesus touched him the man was completely healed and would not make Jesus ceremonially unclean.)

Mark 1:32-35 At evening, when the sun had set, they brought to Him all who were sick and those who were demon-possessed. And the whole city was gathered together at the door. Then He healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He did not allow the demons to speak, because they knew Him. Now in the morning, having risen a long while before daylight, He went out and departed to a solitary place; and there He prayed.

The man knew that Jesus was able to heal and healed ALL, so he knew that Jesus would have been willing to heal him – it was if Jesus would be willing to touch him when he was ceremonially unclean that bothered the leper. For the leper he believed that healing was going to come from touch, and if Jesus was not going to be willing to touch the leper, the leper would not be able to agree with Jesus in faith for his healing. Jesus was going to a solitary place to pray, but he stopped to help this man.

Mark 1:38-39 But He said to them, “Let us go into the next towns, that I may preach there also, because for this purpose I have come forth.” And He was preaching in their synagogues throughout all Galilee, and casting out demons.

Jesus was preaching in the synagogues, so he needed to be ceremonially clean. He cast out demons and taught. What is God’s will for sickness? It is ALWAYS God’s will to destroy the work of the devil. God is never into keeping people sick or poor, you don’t have to earn your healing. Jesus was willing to heal the leper, and the question that the leper wanted to know was if Jesus was willing to touch him.

The man believed that healing was transferred through the hands or through garments, so Jesus met the man where his need was.

Jesus is always willing to do something about our situation. When the Messiah comes there is healing in His wings, for He is the Son of Righteousness.

The Number one way the Israelites believed that healing would come was through touch.

The centurion astounded Jesus by his faith, for he did not demand that Jesus come and touch his servant, he believed all Jesus had to do was say the Word and his servant would be healed. There was a law that stated that if you are righteous and holy you are not permitted to have unclean people touch you or for you to touch anything unclean. Jesus did not break that law for the man was made clean the instant Jesus touched him.

The belief system of the day is, if you have leprosy there is a reason for it, if you are sick lets look at your sin. To worry is a sin. The only time there is not a sin is if there is an accident.

The question for Jesus is, would he deal with the healing if there was sin?

We need to find where our faith is. What do we have the faith to believe? Jesus knew the leper’s faith needed a physical touch so, when Jesus touched him, the man released his faith and was healed.

We determine the methodology of how we receive the healing, often going to physical things before going to the Lord. If we have a headache we take two aspirin to be healed.

We can get a Word of Knowledge that tells us what is blocking our healing and what will open the doors of Heaven. Did you ask for forgiveness? Did you stop the sinful behavior? Etc. Often we don’t want to confess why we are missing our healing.

Mark 1:41  Then Jesus, moved with compassion, stretched out His hand and touched him, and said to him, “I am willing; be cleansed.”

That is Jesus’ answer to us yesterday, today and forever, I AM WILLING – BE CLEANSED.

Mark 1:44 and said to him, “See that you say nothing to anyone; but go your way, show yourself to the priest, and offer for your cleansing those things which Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”

Jesus wanted the man to say nothing, and just do the Levitical cleansing to show he was healed, but we will see that the man sinned and disobeyed Jesus.

Mark 1:45 However, he went out and began to proclaim it freely, and to spread the matter, so that Jesus could no longer openly enter the city, but was outside in deserted places; and they came to Him from every direction.

We might think that, after such suffering, how could this man keep his healing secret? That’s understandable in a way, but what the man’s talking did was  prevent Jesus from doing what Jesus wanted to do, which was to teach in the synagogues and minister to the Jews. He was cast into the light of a law-breaker for touching the leper, even though we know the man was healed instantly and Jesus did not become ceremonially unclean.

The priests of that day, and many of the traditional church people of today, have small minds and would have been more concerned with the seeming break of the law – the touching of something unclean, than they would be praising God for the healing the leper. The Healing virtue from Jesus entered the man before Jesus touched him.

The leaders of that day started asking how can Jesus be a prophet and go around touching unclean people and not go to the temple and offer sacrifice?

The man was excited and disobedient – Jesus told the leper clearly to not say anything. By this man’s fleshly act of disobedience, the ministry of Jesus was interfered with. The people would begin to see Jesus as not doing the righteous thing regarding the leper. Pastor Don told us timing is everything when we are dealing with people. Had Jesus been able to continue teaching the way He planned, people would have seen the sinlessness of Jesus before the Cross.

Pastor Don said, the optimum situation is to be used by the Lord in any capacity – ushering, cleaning toilets, etc, and many in those situations do not realize they can stand up for Christ in any ordinary situation, but if they do not reflect the glory of God, instead of their service being used by the Lord, it contributes to the evil one. To do one’s job with a wrong attitude, to be surly or resentful only adds to the evil one. To be disobedient to God adds to the evil one.

Someone asked about pastors who are living in sin. If we do not uphold and live our lives according to Christ you will be attacked. Satan is the accuser of the brethren. If we fall, satan will accuse us of hypocrisy. God was using you to bring good for another person, to do an act of love in righteousness. Sometimes, to accomplish something on this earth, God will use an unclean vessel, a tarnished person. But sometimes God will withhold a blessing from a person if he knows that the one God has to use would end up taking credit for the blessing and mislead the sheep. God will not show up for a vessel who is more concerned about money or sexual sin. God will withhold the blessing so the Gospel is not tarnished. Judgment is in the house of God. Sexual predators will be exposed. God will withhold anointing and at other times do tremendous miracles through tarnished vessels. For example, some pastors who sinned and repented, God will still use, even though their ministry will not have the same power as before.

Pastor Don was then asked how does a person know whom they are listening to in the Heavenlies, cannot a person be tricked into believing the wrong thing? He told us there is a difference between the Word of Knowledge and the Word of Wisdom. The Word of Knowledge tells something about a situation or person. The Word of Wisdom tells the person what to do with the knowledge.

There is an angel of light and an angel of darkness present. satan is still in the church. He is not invited, not wanted. But a pastor can receive a Word of Knowledge from either the angel of light or from the angel of darkness. We asked more about this. Pastor Don said, if he were a pastor who was a prophet and going to a meeting where people were expecting him to prophesy, what would happen if, when he got to a meeting where people were coming expressly to hear him prophesy, God was silent. What if God did not have anything to say to that particular assemblage of people? What if God told Pastor Don to not prophesy. What if the people came expecting prophecies and Pastor Don had $3,000 worth of bills to pay, and knew that the collection from the meeting depended on his prophesying , what would he do? He would obey God, but there are pastors out there who would bow under the pressure to perform.

If they bowed to that pressure to perform, the only prophetic voice speaking would be the angel of darkness. Pastor Don told us that often the angel of darkness will be 100% right, and both the angel of darkness and the angel of light know the people. Both can tell the truth and give correct information, but the angel of darkness will not always tell the truth. He may tell the truth to most people but if there is one person that satan wants to mislead, the angel of darkness will take advantage of the person and destroy them. Because all the previous prophecies of the angel of darkness were accurate, the person who was to be deceived might think that the prophecy for him was also true. The pastor who bowed to the pressure to perform would be being influenced by a familiar spirit, and giving the false prophecies. Will most people be blessed by the prophecies of the angel of darkness – yes – for satan is no fool, and will not tell bold-faced lies. But people can be brought down or their ministries hampered by false prophecies.

The key is, does the Word agree with what the prophecy says? What’s in your Spirit? Don’t move unless your prophecy identifies with what the Word of God says, and also with God’s timing. On the surface the prophecy may look good, may seem to be the good thing for God, but it may not be God’s best for you. Ask the Holy Spirit – is that of the Lord?

When asked about what about those words from the angel of darkness. Is it wrong to accept them if they are true, and how can we tell if it is an angel of darkness or an angel of light? Pastor Don said you take the good seed and spit out the stubble. Pray about it and seek anointed counsel to help you sort out a prophecy.

Pastor Don said sometimes the pressure to perform can cause a person to not question where the information is coming from. Someone commented that may be the case for some of the TBN prophets who have to weekly perform.

Often, when you hear from the Spirit it is nothing new and it sounds like your own thoughts. But you need to discern if you are hearing from the angel of light or the angel of darkness. We need to be very discerning.

If we misspeak in error, God will tell us and we can go back to God and ask forgiveness. We don’t want to cross the line and have the ends justify the means. We need to ask the Holy Spirit if we received a word from the angel of light or the angel of darkness.

Sometimes a word is not meant to be shared at a particular time. You may want to minister to a person, but the Holy Spirit tells you to wait – He knows that the person’ s heart is not in the right place to receive their healing, and if you act out of order, you could interfere with the work of the Holy Spirit in a person’s life.

But people bend to the pressure and change what the Spirit has told us the Holy Spirit wants to minister a certain way, but the people expect different things.

1 Corinthians 13:8  Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.

Not all prophecies have failed. There are pastors today who use this verse to try and justify that there are no more prophecies and that tongues have ceased.  But knowledge is increasing. Why would one part of a passage be true and the other part not be true.

1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

We are not perfect yet, we are still seeing in part. How come, if we are not perfect, do we think we have perfect understanding of Scripture? We do have questions and the Holy Spirit shows us answers.

1 Corinthians 13:11  When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things

Many of us are still children in our faith,

1 Corinthians 13:12  For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

I shall know as I am known. Right now we know something about things, but we do not have the whole picture.

1 Corinthians 13:13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

This has not changed. When Jesus is here in His fullness, we will not need faith and our hope will be realized in the presence of the Lord. We only hope now because the present is imperfect, and the only real love is through having the Mind of Christ.

We ran out of time, and Pastor Don said that we will continue our studies on the laying on of hands next week.

I count myself so blessed to be able to sit under these teachings. I learn so much, and sharing them with you causes me to review what I have learned. I pray that you also are blessed.



About Heather Marsten

Welcome to Heather's Blog. I'm looking forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. I just moved about nine years of material over from another blog site, Xanga, who may close down mid-July. At first I was disappointed to make the move because I had a lifetime membership at Xanga and had to spend weeks transferring posts. But now I'm thrilled. Already I've met new bloggers and read many new websites. Blogging is a wonderful way to expand my horizons and garner new ideas. I'm a happily married mom of three young adults. My husband and I are proud to watch our children grow and venture out into the world. My daughter is still in college but my two sons have graduated. One has a job and the other just graduated and is in the process of finding a job in his field, physics. Anyone know of any jobs out there? I'm proud of our children and love watching them grow and mature. They've become fine, compassionate, and loving people. Empty nest? Nah, I'm too busy to let an empty nest bother me. Not enough hours in the day. My husband and I enjoy quiet time together and I have many interests to pursue - one of which is blogging :D I am a born-again believer and love God. As you read this blog, you will discover that Bible studies thrill me. There is so much wisdom contained between the covers of the Bible and I am fortunate to sit under the teachings of a remarkable pastor, Pastor Don Moore. Members of our church (Living Word Chapel in West Hurley, New York) are encouraged to teach and there are visiting pastors who stop by our church, I also study the Bible on my own and love sharing what I learn. One other passion is writing. My current work in process is a memoir. A scene from my memoir was published in a book called: Heavenly Company: Entertaining Angels Unaware - an anthology of angelic encounters compiled by Cecil Murphy. I'm hoping my memoir will encourage other survivors of abuse. I grew up in a home filled with abuse, including incest. For most of my life I was searching for something that would fill the void of not being loved by my parents. I tried many ways to find that love -- therapy, relationships, occult studies, and keeping my life so filled I had no way to think about my past. It was only when I discovered God that I was able to put the pieces of my life back together and walk forward in a joyous life. My nickname - wondering has changed from wondering where the heck God was in my life, to wondering what incredible adventure is going to happen next. I hope you enjoy my site. Please say hi, share some thoughts, and ask questions. I look forward to meeting you and checking out your sites. Have a blessed day. Heather
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