Mintel2007 (Link not working with Xanga closed – 6/22/13 http://www.xanga.com/mintel2007) asked an intriguing question. I am going to give what I think about it, but am opening this up to your opinions and beliefs too. I think we can all be enriched.
As we become students of the Bible, our faith will be challenged, inspired, and developed. I have been studying the Bible in a manner that I’ve never done before in my life. Praise to the Most High, my refuge! Now, I have a question for you regarding something that has been popping out at me in the Bible. I will find an argument for it, and then a few passages later I will find something to counter it. What is it that the Lord has shown YOU about predestination?
Regarding the question of predestination I know that God has said a few things that add to the picture. Psalm 139, a Psalm that at times is comforting to me and other times infuriating because God talks about how He formed our inward parts and covered us in our mother’s womb(verse 13) and verse 16 that he fashioned our days. Given my past, I often bristled at that passage for I thought what kind of love is it that gave me a past of abuse. Yet, I also see that God will replace ashes for beauty as time goes by.
From the moment the World was spoken into existence by the Word of God, he had plans. I suspect He knew that Adam and Eve would disobey and He had Jesus there to redeem the earth. Genesis 3:17 was a plan. All we need to do is read Revelation to see that God can use all to accomplish his good purpose for Him. For example the Kings of the Earth will get it in their hearts to go against Babylon. Revelation 17:17, “For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the best, until the words of God are fulfilled.”
Yes, God is sovereign, in control and knows what will happen, but that does not negate free will. God wants us to be able to choose, for if we do not choose to love Him, but are compelled to love Him by His strong will it isn’t love, it would be a rape of our spirits. God gave us the liberty to choose Him or not choose Him. I pray people choose Him.
We see the world in a limited perspective. We are subject to time and space, and do not see the whole picture. No matter how much we know, there is still an infinite amount of things that we do not know or perceive. God falls into that category. We have a God that is far bigger than our biggest imaginings of Him, and that is a good thing. I wouldn’t want a God that I could completely predict and understand, what good would that be. Often we won’t see the incredible workings of God until in retrospect.
God loves to surprise His people and do things in ways that seem impossible. He had Gideon greatly reduce His army so that the odds were impossible, and by breaking a pottery lamp and shouting the enemy was confused and defeated. Joshua marched around Jericho and shouted and the walls tumbled. Jesus was born of a virgin, and did not act the role of great warrior king that the Israelites assumed would be coming. God created water from a rock, manna in the wilderness, parted the Red Sea. He asks Job very pointed questions about the creation of the earth and the sustaining of the creatures.
I was able to see that even though during my pagan days I used to walk around saying, “Thou are god” and believing that I was in control of my universe, that really I was in control of NOTHING. I can’t keep my heart pumping 24/7/365. I can’t control my breathing, my thoughts can run rampant, I can’t create new life from nothing. Any control I have is an illusion.
God can provide free will and at the same time know what is going on. Our pastor once had someone stand up on the altar, and had people walking around the aisles, with others being roadblocks in the middle of certain aisles. Only God from his elevated perspective could see the entire “road”, the people walking would not know where the roadblocks were. God is not a control freak, but if we want to walk smoothly through life, he wants us in constant communication with Him. When Adam and Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they thought they were gaining an independence and being more like God, instead they put themselves under bondage. Before the fruit, they knew only good and walked closely with God. After the fruit they hid, had to cover themselves and gained a knowledge of evil. God wants the best for us, so it comes down to trusting God.
There is an incredible book called FLATLAND (I put up the link to the book). It talks about two-dimensional creatures, circle, line, triangle and one of the creatures talks about the 3rd dimension. His fellow creatures think he is insane for there is no third dimension in their world, and if the third dimension intersects their world it is only at a few points.
When God intersects our world it often goes unnoticed. But that does not mean that He isn’t there.
We are not big enough to conceive of all that God can conceive. His thoughts are greater than our thoughts. I think we just have to trust. We can have free will and predestination simultaneously, and God can do it.
Hope that helps.
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